Legislature(2013 - 2014)BUTROVICH 205

04/05/2014 09:00 AM Senate RESOURCES


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09:00:47 AM Start
09:01:26 AM Confirmation Hearings:
09:51:42 AM Board of Game
10:31:18 AM HB268
10:51:37 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Uniform Rule 23 Waived --
+ Confirmation of Governor's Appointments: TELECONFERENCED
Board of Fisheries - Susan Jeffrey, Reed Morisky,
John Jensen
Board of Game - Stanley (Stosh) Hoffman, Jr.,
Ted Spraker, David Brown
-- Public Testimony on Appointments --
*+ HB 268 BIG BULL MOOSE DERBIES; SNOW TOWN ICE CL. TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 268(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
        HB 268-BIG BULL MOOSE DERBIES; SNOW TOWN ICE CL.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL announced  HB 268 to be up  for consideration [CSHB
268(FIN), version 28-LS0851\P was before the committee].                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON, sponsor of  HB 268, explained that this                                                               
bill  is a  big bull  moose derby  that started  with the  Tanana                                                               
Valley Sportsmen's Association and the  UAF Rifle Team to be able                                                               
to  earn funds  to  a competition  based on  what  is already  in                                                               
statute for  hunting. You would  still have  to get all  the same                                                               
permits and follow  the regulations in the area  you are hunting,                                                               
and this would allow them to have a derby.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
As most bills go, it picked up  a "little sister" and that is the                                                               
Snow  Town  Ice Classic  in  Valdez  that  would help  those  who                                                               
advocate for victims of violence.  The City of Valdez has offered                                                               
to help  them do this  ice classic that  would be very  much like                                                               
the one in Nenana.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The  reason this  is in  front of  them is  that all  derbies and                                                               
classics by statute  must go through this  process. Resources are                                                               
decreasing  and so  they are  asking the  state's non-profits  to                                                               
find   other  ways   of  getting   funding.  The   Tanana  Valley                                                               
Sportsmen's Association (TVSA)  had a fire several  years ago and                                                               
has been  rebuilding since  then. They  provide shooting  for not                                                               
just the UAF Rife Team, but  most of the high schoolers, and have                                                               
clinics for  the youngsters. This  would be another way  for them                                                               
to  be  able to  finish  their  facility  without coming  to  the                                                               
legislature for funds.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL opened public testimony.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:31:18 AM                                                                                                                   
ROWENA APLOMAR, Advocates for Victims  of Violence (AVV), Valdez,                                                               
Alaska, supported HB 268. She  related how they need $25,000 more                                                               
to meet their needs. She said AVV  is one of the 20 programs that                                                               
provide  services  to victims  of  domestic  violence and  sexual                                                               
assault.  They serve  18 communities  from Glennallen  to Valdez;                                                               
their  shelter and  main office  is also  located in  Valdez. For                                                               
FY13/14 their basic operating costs  have risen over $20,000 with                                                               
increased  transportation  for  victims  from  villages,  shelter                                                               
utility,  energy,  and  insurance  costs. At  the  current  state                                                               
funding level, they would need  an additional $25,000 to continue                                                               
to  meet   victims'  basic  needs.  Unfortunately,   the  current                                                               
proposed increment in the state's  funding of about $285,000 will                                                               
be divided among 20 programs  throughout Alaska. AVV will need to                                                               
make up  for the difference  or be  forced to cut  services. They                                                               
hope that  being eligible  to receive  funding from  this classic                                                               
would make up the projected shortfall.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:33:03 AM                                                                                                                   
DAN  JORDAN,   Head  Rifle  Team  Coach,   University  of  Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks  (UAF),   Fairbanks,  Alaska,  supported  HB   268.  He                                                               
explained  that UAF  has had  a  very successful  rifle team  and                                                               
shooting programs going  all the way back to 1925;  they have won                                                               
10  national championships  and have  had multiple  all-Americans                                                               
and  Olympians  come  out  of the  program.  Being  a  university                                                               
program,  they  are subject  to  state  funding and  are  already                                                               
planning on  a 3 percent decrease  in their budget next  year, if                                                               
not  more,  and  as  a  result, are  looking  for  other  funding                                                               
options. This  big bull derby  is one  way they think  could take                                                               
them a long way to being self-sufficient.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MIKE TINKER,  Tanana Valley Sportsman Association  (TVSA), Ester,                                                               
Alaska,  supported  HB 268.  He  said  his family  including  his                                                               
grandchildren are members  and he has looked  for funding support                                                               
for that organization and the UAF Rifle Team for a long time.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He said they  talked about the big bull moose  derby with the UAF                                                               
and   the  Department   of  Commerce,   Community  and   Economic                                                               
Development  (DCCED) about  how  they might  expand their  raffle                                                               
permit into  the derby concept.  Representative T.  Wilson looked                                                               
into it and found  two avenues to choose from: one  was to try to                                                               
fit  under the  concept of  animal classics,  but the  DCCED said                                                               
that would  require an amendment and  recommended adding specific                                                               
language and they picked up the Valdez Snow Derby along the way.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TINKER said  questions had  been raised  about whether  this                                                               
would  create a  demand for  new  hunters in  the state,  because                                                               
people would  run out  and try  to make  a lot  of money  off the                                                               
biggest  moose. In  their discussion  with hunters  and with  the                                                               
ADF&G, no  one forecasts  that would be  a problem.  He explained                                                               
that the prizes would  be set up so that there  would a prize for                                                               
the  biggest  moose  antler  of  the year  and  a  drawing  where                                                               
everyone would have a chances to win something.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON asked the sponsor if she knew of any opposition.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON responded  that one person believed that                                                               
someone would go  out and shoot a moose and  it wouldn't be large                                                               
enough and go shoot another one,  but she said these hunters must                                                               
go through  the same  permitting process and  are subject  to the                                                               
same  regulations as  other hunters.  Some areas  even require  a                                                               
certain size of antlers.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:39:41 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  BISHOP asked  Mr.  Tinker  if the  TVSA  will provide  a                                                               
measuring station  and officials who perform  actual measurements                                                               
and  if they  will use  Boone and  Crockett measuring  standards,                                                               
because there are different ways of measuring moose antlers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TINKER  replied that they hadn't  come up with a  formula for                                                               
measuring antlers,  but it will  be simple and one  that everyone                                                               
will understand, within the derby rules.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:41:19 AM                                                                                                                   
AL BARRETTE,  representing himself, Fairbanks,  Alaska, supported                                                               
HB  268.  He   was  glad  both  organizations   got  together  to                                                               
brainstorm   for  ways   of  solving   budget  issues   for  both                                                               
organizations. He  assured them that  no more moose tags  will be                                                               
issued; this  is just a  raffle. However, he stated  that already                                                               
in two-thirds  of all the moose  units you can hunt  moose in you                                                               
have to shoot  a 50-inch or larger moose.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
GRANT  LEWIS, President,  Tanana  Valley Sportsmen's  Association                                                               
(TVSA), Fairbanks,  Alaska, supported HB 268.  Their emphasis has                                                               
been on safe  fire arms education. All of the  local high schools                                                               
are using their  facility, but they had a fire  in 2007. They are                                                               
still working on their new  building on a week-to-week basis with                                                               
volunteers. With the  money they get from this  classic they hope                                                               
to finish their facility and continue hunter education programs.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL thanked  him saying that she had  seen the facility                                                               
that is lovely and a wonderful asset to Fairbanks.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
VIRGIL  UMPHENOUR,  representing  himself,  said he  had  been  a                                                               
member of TVSA since 1971 and  supported HB 268. His whole family                                                               
were  competitive rifle  shooters and  learned hunter  safety and                                                               
hunter education at TVSA. UAF has  one of the best rifle teams in                                                               
the  country. It  will  raise  money for  things  that are  truly                                                               
unique to Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:46:16 AM                                                                                                                   
GEORGE PIERCE, representing himself,  Kasilof, Alaska, opposed HB
268. He said  the moose belong to Alaska and  not the non-profits                                                               
to make  money on or for  non-residents, 85 percent of  whom take                                                               
only the horns  and donate the meat. Stop using  our game to make                                                               
money especially in areas with low game numbers, he urged.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:48:44 AM                                                                                                                   
DARRYL  VERFAILLIE,  Director,  Parks,  Recreation  and  Cultural                                                               
Services,   Valdez,  Alaska,   informed   them   of  the   city's                                                               
participation  in  the ice  classic.  He  explained the  City  of                                                               
Valdez would not receive any  revenues from the ice classic; they                                                               
would simply coordinate  the event on behalf of  AVV, assist with                                                               
the advertising  and provide monitoring  of the event.  In short,                                                               
they  would act  as a  force  multiplier for  AVV moving  towards                                                               
self-sustainability of the programing.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL  found  no further  testimony  and  closed  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T. WILSON  closed in  saying this  is going  with                                                               
what  ADF&G does  currently. What  happens if  one of  the gaming                                                               
areas is closed?  It will be closed. This will  not give any more                                                               
permits  and not  manage anything.  It  will use  the rules  that                                                               
already exist.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  asked if  this is any  different in  concept than                                                               
the silver salmon derbies where you  get a prize for catching the                                                               
biggest fish.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON replied that  it is exactly like halibut                                                               
and salmon derbies and should be approximately the same way.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  moved to report  CSHB 268(FIN),  28-LS0851\P, from                                                               
committee  with   attached  zero   fiscal  note   and  individual                                                               
recommendations. There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SRES Fisheries Appointment - Jeffrey.pdf SRES 4/5/2014 9:00:00 AM
SRES Fisheries Appointment - Morisky.pdf SRES 4/5/2014 9:00:00 AM
SRES Fisheries Appointment- Jensen.pdf SRES 4/5/2014 9:00:00 AM
SRES Game Appointment - Hoffman Jr.pdf SRES 4/5/2014 9:00:00 AM
SRES Game Appointment- Spraker.pdf SRES 4/5/2014 9:00:00 AM
SRES Game Appointment - Brown.pdf SRES 4/5/2014 9:00:00 AM